How Farmers Manage It All: Time-Saving Systems for chickens, ducks, turkeys, quail, goats and pigs!
Running a farm isn’t easy — especially when you’re balancing hundreds (or thousands) of birds, a full-time job, and family life. In this episode of the Poultry Nerds Podcast, Carey and the crew get real about how to manage your time, stay organized, and build systems that make poultry farming sustainable.
From feeding routines and managing employees (or deciding to do it yourself), to hiring help for cleaning or landscaping — this episode breaks down what it really takes to handle it all. Learn about daily feeding systems, efficient use of tools like Gators and feed trolleys, and how to avoid burnout while keeping your poultry, pigs, and other livestock thriving.
👉 Whether you raise quail, chickens, or gamefowl, you’ll gain actionable tips for improving efficiency, managing chores, and finding balance between your farm and your life.
🎧 Tune in to hear:
Real-life stories of farm help gone wrong (and lessons learned)
Practical time-management systems for poultry keepers
Smart outsourcing: when to hire, when to DIY
Feed routines, animal care workflows, and organization hacks
How to manage distractions and keep your farm running smoothly
🐔 Hosts: Carey Blackmon & Jennifer Bryant
📅 Episode Theme: Poultry Farm Systems & Time Management
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Jennifer: 0:23
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Carey: 0:35
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Jennifer: 1:01
Ready to learn and make a difference in your poultry operations. Let's dive right in. Poultry nerds over the weekend I had some really nice people drive all the way down from Indiana to pick up some birds, and she pulled up and she's been here before, but she asked me, she said, how in the world do you do all of this? And she was just looking around and I said, you know what? That sounds like a podcast episode.
Carey: 1:34
Yeah. It's a lot. People ask me, they're like, how do you, and to be honest, sometimes I don't really know.
Jennifer: 1:44
No. So I, I started doing consults about the quail a few years ago and people would come and I started paying attention to their faces. At first, I was just always really excited, like to share and talk birds and everything. But then I started really paying attention to the looks on your face is, and I think that's how we met. You came up here to kinda. Look around and see how I had stuff laid out and everything. Was it over? Because sometimes people have that look on their face, like they're completely overwhelmed.
Carey: 2:18
No. So I was like a kid that just went into a candy store. Like when I looked in your barn, it was like LA wow,
Jennifer: 2:30
was Tamara overwhelmed?
Carey: 2:32
We got incubators here and. All the little birds chirping and brooding in this one room and then thousands quail, all neatly organized in rows. And then you know, your chicken grow outs'cause they're inside the barn. Not quite ready to kick'em out. And you just showed me that and then your grow outs and I was like, one day, this lady's living the dream.
Jennifer: 3:13
Okay. So was Tamra overwhelmed?
Carey: 3:16
I don't know that she really pays a whole lot of attention.
Jennifer: 3:20
Does she listen to us?
Carey: 3:22
No. She hears me talking enough about it that. Like chickens, quail, turkeys, none of that interest her. She teetotal don't care. She does what she does and she lets me do what I do just because she's a loving and supportive wife.
Jennifer: 3:45
Okay, so I say
Carey: 3:47
that and we are recording this on her birthday instead of. Me taking her out. But in my defense, I covered that base yesterday. And when I asked her what she would like for her birthday, she said I would like some new outfits. I said, then you need to pick some out.'cause I don't buy clothes for her. It's a trap. Like women's sizes. You could take a 10 in one brand and it fits like a 14 in another. It fits like a six in another. And for a guy that just knows a number to go by, it's a lose. Because It is, it fits you too small. So you think, we think you're fat or it fits you too big, which means we still think you're too fat. So it's, it is a losing thing. Like I've been down this road before, years ago, I tried it, I was gonna be a loving husband. My wife wanted some new clothes, so I was gonna hook her up. Found some outfits that I thought would look good on her. Got the exact sizes of stuff she had snowballed. So I told her, I said, honey the store, there's a store that she likes to buy a lot of stuff from. I said, why don't you just go there, put together a cart and let me know I got you Her face lit up. She said, really? I said, yep, happy birthday. So I didn't have to go shopping. I have to do nothing. And I made my wife really happy. So that's why she don't care if I bring home a chicken or some quail or, they, the last time I got from your place one of the kids said, Hey pops, you want me to close the box truck? Because I'd left the back open'cause I hadn't been home long and it was after dark, so it wasn't really hot. But I needed airflow because I wanted to take a break before I got some turkeys and put'em in their new house. Tamara goes, nah, there's probably some animals back there. I didn't even get the answer. Yeah, I learned early on. You take really good care of your significant other and they will let you do whatever you wanna do
Jennifer: 6:15
except Emos. David still won't let me have Emos.
Carey: 6:20
Yeah, she didn't really say a whole lot when she found out about the indigoes getting to be three to four feet tall. She said that's a big chicken. I said, it's not an E moon
Jennifer: 6:39
yeah. All right. So we have to talk about how we do take care of all this stuff. Because it is a lot. Yes. You work a regular job outside the home and run another bus of the feed business. Yeah. And have to care for all these animals. So do you have an employee, do you have any help
Carey: 7:02
that has been an issue? I had one person had to let them go, had another person. Had to let them go.
Jennifer: 7:12
Okay. So let's talk about that for just a second. Why did you have to let them go? Because I think that's important for people to hear.
Carey: 7:20
The first one was stealing. Not tangible items but time. And it was 45 minutes to an hour here, 45 minutes to an hour there. But, we, when that person first started, it was first person I hired as Farm help. I said, how much do you need to make? The person told me, I'm a dollar figure. I said, okay. And then I was like, this is what I need you to do. And these things get done every day. These things get done when they need it. And there was times where there'd be. Four or five hours put on the time clock. And I would think a lot of that stuff was done, but it really wasn't. And so I got to getting really frustrated and started looking at cameras and like start times would be written down 20 minutes or so before they even showed up to the house.'cause for those that don't know. There's like the bathroom. It's about the only place inside or outside my house. You can be and not be on camera. At least one. I have a lot of cameras, so you know, I just looked and I was like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah, I had nothing to say.
Jennifer: 8:49
And then the one you fired just a couple days ago.
Carey: 8:52
Not feeding. Worth of crap. Would not clean. Did not clean out waters. I started checking into stuff and nothing had been done. Some of my poop trays were so bad that they were like leaking out the back, which made me mad. And I'll just leave it at that. So the level is not that important.
Jennifer: 9:19
So I've tried to hire help also. Also found people that didn't want to work. Wanted to be your friend. Didn't think that refilling water meant that if it still had an inch of dirty water in the bottom, it could still be okay until tomorrow. Not changing out the water buckets feed always an issue feeding the wrong feed to the wrong animals.
Carey: 9:49
Yeah I had chickens and quail getting goat feed.
Jennifer: 9:53
Yep. So help isn't always what it's cracked up to be when you're talking about taking care of live animals. So earlier this year we let the last one go and pretty much are now done with hiring outside help Now. My oldest has come back for a couple months because his job is shut down through the winter and he does help me in the barn through the busy season when it's really cold. And but he'll be gone. He's probably leaving in March, late March, so he's only here for a few months. But that kinda helps me catch up during the busy season and stay current. And so I do have that help in the barn, but he, he's the kid and I can tell him he's in his thirties, but I can tell him what to do and he'll do it. So it's a little bit different. So what? Doing it by myself, I had to come up with a system. Yes. And the animals have even learned the system. They know who gets fed next because they follow the gator from. Stop to stop. Yeah.
Carey: 11:10
And so
Jennifer: 11:11
when I am done with my coffee in the morning, the button quail and the rabbit in the living room get first dibs and then the little shihtzu, and then we leave and go do the cows and one of the big dogs. And then we leave there and go to the barn and I do the circle in there, do the brooders first, and then the quail and any grow outs, and then move to the outside, do the big pen, then the condos on the other side. But then I had to be. I have to be ready. I have an hour. It takes an hour to do the next step. So you have to feed the pigs and then run back to the gator to drive the gator up to the side of the pond to feed the ducks so the pigs don't eat the duck food, but the ducks are too stupid and they try to eat the pig food and they get stepped on. So here they come running, chasing the gator to eat their food. And then the ducks had to be finished eating before the pigs finished theirs to run up there to see if there's anything left. And then at that point, I have to go do all the breeder pens because I have to do that while the ducks are eating. Otherwise, I have an entourage and I will inadvertently step on a duck. Trip over a duck, kick a duck. Wonder why I have chosen this as my lifestyle by the end of the pens, because the ducks are so loud and if David wants to feed the fish, he has to be notified before I feed the pigs, before I feed the ducks, and then I have to stand there and babysit the ducks while he feeds the fish. Otherwise, the ducks will fly out there and eat the catfish food. Yep. It's like a circus. You're just looking at me like, what?
Carey: 13:40
Yeah. So like for me I go in my barn and I feed the babies first because I don't, my other birds have stronger immune systems already, so I don't run any risk with that. But I want to feed my pigs last because I like watching them, but they won't shut up. They're wait their turn. So what I've started doing is I have a 55 gallon drum. That I put right beside the pen for their paddock. And I've got my chicken feed and my little cart and I'll stop there and just dump some over into their troughs.'cause I've got like those blue 55 gallon drums cut in half long ways to make troughs out of it. And I got three of those'cause. I have a lot of pigs accidentally. They multiplied.
Jennifer: 14:50
They do. You sprinkle water on'em and you get more
Carey: 14:53
that, that's about how it worked. And so that all happened and, but I'll, give them a little, I don't give'em all. Then I reading birds in my grow outs and that good stuff and then I'll come back. Usually I will give, if I have any hay that's gotten wet or anything like that out of the feeder for the goats, I'll take it over to the pigs'cause they'll eat it right up. And my goats are bougie, so if it's not dry, good enough to where you can at least smell the hay, they're not touching it. And so I'll throw that over there. I'll also, I get the alfalfa cubes that are made for horses. The ones that are like two, three inches long, an inch square. I'll get those and I'll put the better part of a five gallon pale full and put that in there because those pigs, they're smart they do not like alfalfa pellets in their feet. So if you mix it in the feed, they're not gonna eat it. I don't know how their eyes are so far back and their nose is out and it's like huge how to get out to eat the other stuff. But they do. But them dag gum, alfalfa cubes, they'll tear'em up. And, they're ruminant animals and they're, but the alfalfa is loaded in nutrients, so I like to have it in their diet and yeah. But yeah it's a, it is a, it is like a process and I have, once you're in
Jennifer: 16:51
it, you have to do it.
Carey: 16:53
Yeah. I had, and I also use, so I've got the 55 gallon drum by them. And then on one side of my yard where I have my game foul, I have a barrel for them. And so like when I get their feed, I just dump it in there. So it's already there though. And on the other side I have their feed for my breeders. They're all that feeds in the barn. I just put it in the wagon and go. But putting the feed in the area that it goes, to somebody that's listening, that's got 20 chickens. Doesn't sound like a thing, but you don't have your cow feed in your quail barn all the time and you have a gator. When you feed, you've got your breeder feed, your layer feed, and you just go for a ride. But think about how long it would take if you didn't have just a system for feeding.
Jennifer: 18:11
Okay, for context, I go through almost 200 pounds of feed a day. So there's a lot of mouth to feed. But I do have a gator. We have a larger property. I do not, I know I, I don't have to think about it. I cannot do what I do without the gator. It would not be possible. Because I move so much stuff around, I look like a hoarder. Like I live in my gator. It's got so much crap in it.
Carey: 18:44
But like it's, you use it?
Jennifer: 18:48
Oh yeah. I, yeah. I probably put, I think there's right at 6,000 miles on it, it's only five years old and it just goes. But you
Carey: 18:56
probably put more miles on that than you do your car.
Jennifer: 18:59
I do. I don't drive anywhere else. So because we have our systems, we can move through the feeding relatively quickly. If we wanted to if we didn't wanna stop and oh, look at how cute that one is, or Ooh, why is that? Why am I feeding that one? As long as we don't need that and we actually are moving through the process quickly, like today it's raining so I move through it quickly. It might take a total of two hours, maybe a day to do everything if I'm moving really quickly. And but that doesn't count for boxing orders, answering emails. We both have other jobs. Cooking, dinner having a little bit of free time, to just sit, put your feet up, things that, that other people do that have regular jobs. So I cannot physically do everything, so because we have. Basically both discovered that it's really hard to hire somebody as a farm hand. We've elected to farm out other things. I farm out my house cleaning. I hate cleaning house. Who wants to scrub bathrooms when you can clean poop tray, so I have house cleaners because they'll be in here cleaning and I'll be out in the barn cleaning. Something else. I have my feed delivered. The feed, the local feed store delivers to me. You deliver to me. And because just going to the feed store, that would take say 30 minutes of drive time to the store. Then, if I go to my local feed store, then I have to stand there and talk to Tammy for at least an hour to get all the local, everything that's going on and then 30 minutes back. So that's, but look,
Carey: 20:57
she is really nice and fun to talk to, but
Jennifer: 21:01
you get we've
Carey: 21:01
chatted a few times, but, and if you can't, like the person you buy your feed from, then you shouldn't buy feed from'em.
Jennifer: 21:09
Now, but I can talk to her on the phone with my earbuds while I'm feeding. See that's different. So I can talk to her that way. And then, but even if you wanted to go to Tractor Supply, you're still, you gotta get cleaned up, you've gotta drive over there. You've gotta go in the store. Then how many other things do you buy because you're in the store and then you've gotta come home and put it all away. In my case, yeah. I just open up the barn and I use, they're called U-boats, but I call'em my feed trolleys and I just pull a feed trolley out and they stack everything on the feed trolleys for me while I continue feeding. The other thing that we farm out is weed whacking. Now David and I can both mow but there's no way that we could keep up with all the weed whacking of the fence rows and around the house and the barn and the trees and everything. And so we farm that out. We have a landscape crew that comes in, just weed wax. It took a little convincing. They wanted to mow too. And I was like, no, they bring five guys and they can knock it out in 30, 45 minutes where it would take us, six hours maybe, and I You say a day?
Carey: 22:24
And a day on a weed whacker. That's some tough work.
Jennifer: 22:27
Yeah. And I can't stand that long and I don't have six hours to give up from the other stuff. And so it's really easy in, I would assume, pretty much any area to find people to clean your house, to weed, whack your yard, to then to deliver feed. Even Tractor supply delivers feed. You might have to pay them, but roadie or something does it for'em, I think.
Carey: 22:57
But
Jennifer: 22:58
it might be,
Carey: 22:58
heck, for that matter, you could buy your feed from Chewy and FedEx will
Jennifer: 23:03
Drop it
Carey: 23:04
in the middle of your yard for you.
Jennifer: 23:06
So you, you have to break down like, what can I farm out? What don't I enjoy? What don't I need to supervise? Hands on all the time. And does anybody's life depend on it? In your case the wrong feed was getting sent to the wrong animal. In my case, I wasn't getting water buckets filled up in the summertime. That was a problem. But in this case, say they missed a shelf when they dusted, that's not really a big deal, yeah. What could do. But when I come in from cleaning the barn and my house is clean, it's really nice. And to be quite honest, getting my house cleaned and getting my yard weed whacked is cheaper than paying part-time help at the barn. Yeah.'Cause they show up and
Carey: 23:52
get
Jennifer: 23:52
done. I was gonna
Carey: 23:53
say, they show up, they do it. You get what you pay for and they're done.
Jennifer: 24:00
Because you pay'em by the job, not by the hour. Yep, exactly. So sit down maybe and prioritize what it is that you love to do that you don't wanna give up doing. Nobody else can set breeders up for me in the Quail Barn. Nobody else can assess an orpington and select them for me. So I cannot, it's not possible to farm that stuff out.
Carey: 24:27
I do like to try though.
Jennifer: 24:31
Actually, your, I still use what your suggestion was it last year or the year before where used to just pull the worst one out? I still do that.
Carey: 24:41
Yeah. Because for me, what I'm trying to do, my breeders, and I'm like, okay, I want the best. But they're all yours, so you should think they're all good.
Jennifer: 24:52
Yeah. I can find fault with all of'em.
Carey: 24:56
Yeah. You start looking for a hair that's, a feather, not the right color or a foot That's funny, or something like that. You are like, oh. Boom. Dog food. Dog food. Oh, you're plump. I'm going to eat you. You're outta here. And what you have left is your breeders.
Jennifer: 25:20
Okay, so bigger tasks, like both of us are building a more vertical style bruter right now. So those are bigger tasks that need to be done. They need to be finished, but we, neither one of us have. The time to sit down and do it from start to finish. So David work, David builds for me obviously, and he will start it over in his shop and bring it to the barn. But we're going on like a month now and all the doors are not on because. Life happens and it just hasn't gotten finished yet. So don't be discouraged if you have to break tasks up into smaller, more bite-sized pieces because yeah,
Carey: 26:11
doing something like this is something where you a d can really fish because you're not gonna get it done all at once anyway. So you don't feel that crap'cause you don't finish anything. Because eventually you do,
Jennifer: 26:28
the next tip that I can give you is to do a schedule for the things that have to be done on a schedule. So for us, the poop trays on the quail have to be done twice a week. Otherwise the trays are too heavy and the smell and pneumonia gets too bad. So we do Tuesdays and Fridays. That is what works best for us. Tuesdays and Fridays, we know it takes about three hours each morning to do it.'Cause we do clean the floor and sweep and do all that kinda stuff at the same time. So we can look at a calendar six months out. And we know that we need to make a dentist appointment on a Wednesday because we're doing poop trays on Tuesdays and Fridays. And I only ship lives on Tuesdays. The post office is usually really busy on Mondays. I can get a lot more egg orders out on Mondays, so I do eggs on Mondays, do lives on Tuesdays, and then go back to eggs on Wednesdays and Thursdays. So I know that Tuesdays are just super busy. David's gonna be doing poop trays while I get the live boxes ready. It would be a whole podcast show probably on shipping lives. We might need to do that one day. It's. It takes me. Yeah, we need to do that. Hours to do live shipping. There is so much that goes into it on the backside.
Carey: 28:02
It's a lot of prep work.
Jennifer: 28:03
Yes. It's an incredible
Carey: 28:05
prep work. At least if you wanna make sure your birds make it to the other end.
Jennifer: 28:10
And mind you tuesdays, I set my alarm to get up earlier than I normally do, and as I am not a morning person. And it's very difficult for me to get up early. But on Tuesdays I do. And my post office closes at three. That means I have to, my goal is to have the boxes done and labeled and ready to go at two o'clock because it takes about 20 minutes for me to unload them all if my car is full. Yeah. And get them all checked in. So on Tuesdays I don't answer emails. I don't talk a lot by text or on the phone. I will do all of that stuff after three o'clock. You have to have a schedule. Do you have a schedule?
Carey: 29:02
Huh?
Jennifer: 29:02
Sort of. Do you have a schedule?
Carey: 29:06
I have a schedule, but it's a little more spread out. I do poop trays when I can, and it gets done twice a week, but it's either on Tuesdays because I'm here Monday all night. Or Wednesday, and then it's either done Friday night or Saturday morning. So I keep that very slight variance, mainly because sometimes I'm out of energy at the end of the day at, so that, that is one thing that is probably the biggest non-AI thing that I have to do. But that's when it gets done and I can really do it any time of the day, so it's no big deal as long as I don't get distracted.
Jennifer: 30:05
That's next on my list is distractions. Now you fight with that harder than I do, but I my biggest distraction is probably watching the birds. And then second would be just. When I have to sit down and take a rest, it's flicking through social media. And social media is designed to captivate you, to keep you flipping and scrolling and thumbing through the reels.
Carey: 30:35
And it'll suck you in.
Jennifer: 30:36
Yep. It'll suck you in. And so I have known people to take the take the apps off of their phones so they can only do it like when they go inside. I haven't got to that point yet because I don't think that I hate Facebook enough that it's not that big of a problem. If I could completely get off of it altogether, I would. So there's so much misinformation on there. It just drives me. Crazy. But anyway, so yeah, peg your distractions and maybe make a list and think through how best to manage them for you, people with kids or and afterschool activities might have more time management issues than, I have grandkids, so it's just us here. What do you, oh God. Speaking
Carey: 31:33
of kids. So this has become a thing lately. My toddler can open the door and, she can get down the steps too. And when you're out, I have some quail that are outside and I have the ones in the barn, the ones outside are on the far side of the front yard and the tree line. And when you're over there taking care of them, listening to them, making noises, and your time, you're just in the moment. Found some solace and you're just doing it, and then you hear Daddy, it's like, where'd you come from? Why are you outside? Why are you right behind me? Why didn't nobody know? Holy crap. You know that whole thing goes in, which, we live at the end of a dead end, I wouldn't really worry about anything. And I think if someone got close to her, I don't really know who would get to'em first Buddy Lucy or me. But they love that little girl, so shoot, I think my LGDs might, they might like her more than me and I'm the one that feeds them but she's, she is. But that, that definitely can be a distraction because you have to deal with it. Or when they want to help daddy. Yeah. Then your hour or two worth of chores takes four. It is really hard to say no too. I always say, and I've heard people at conferences say this too. Do not have more animals than what you can't do your chores in two hours. And I'm not talking like doing'em perfect. I'm talking slam through it, get it done as fast as you can, two hours. So yeah, that's, it works for me.
Jennifer: 33:48
Yeah, I'm way over that.
Carey: 33:51
But I mean like the basic, I'm talking the basics, feeding water.
Jennifer: 33:54
Oh yeah. Obviously, yeah,
Carey: 33:56
You can feed and water in two hours.
Jennifer: 33:58
Yeah, I could Before. It might not be to the best of
Carey: 34:01
your ability, but in this situation you could.
Jennifer: 34:05
Yeah,
Carey: 34:06
that's what I'm talking about now tomorrow. But then, tomorrow might take you three or four, but if you gotta do it, it can be done. And that's how you know when you have too much yeah. You gotta balance it.
Jennifer: 34:21
So to go along with our topic today for time management, I came up with a Google Doc that kinda gives you some points to ponder, maybe make some lists. I'm gonna put it on the website where you can easily find it. And on the home screen, and you can just download it to your Google Docs. It is shareable. Fill it out, print out. Yeah, you just
Carey: 34:49
file, make a copy.
Jennifer: 34:51
Yeah, he'll probably do it'cause he is better with that than I am. But it's not homework. You don't have to turn it back in or anything. This is for you to maybe think about some things or give you some ideas that maybe, maybe you can hire somebody to come clean your bathroom so you can go clean poop trays instead.
Carey: 35:10
And also, I'm looking at your list right now and it like. It helps you really think about one of them whose biggest time wasters, and you've got some things listed there that maybe you didn't think about.'cause I didn't think about one or two of them really being that big of a time waster. But when you pointed out. I'm like, oh God, that really is that. I suck you dry.
Jennifer: 35:38
Okay, so I'm gonna give you an example and that's, this is what got me thinking about the social media and why really, I hate it so much. So I know that I have customers who follow me on social media. But when I look at my website analytics, I only get a very small percentage of sales that come from social media. Majority of my sales come from Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, and those other things. So the question becomes, is my time better served, making my website more user friendly? Working my email list, working that side of it when only a small percentage of'em are coming from social media. So you know, you have to allot your time accordingly that way and see if you notice a difference if I quit posting on social media. Which I have in the last couple weeks. I don't post very much. I have not noticed a difference in my website traffic. At least not declining actually. It's might have gone up just a little bit. So put your energy where it's going to serve you, not necessarily. Where it's a hobby or just a distraction,
Carey: 37:11
and you know when it comes to how am I gonna pay for somebody to clean my house? You gotta look at your time, value, and money. So if you take two hours to clean your house, how much will you be missing out if you're packing orders? Not getting that stuff done, because if you don't get that stuff done in a timely manner, people are gonna buy from somebody that will, so you know your time's better spent packing orders, taking care of your people, and not scrubbing your toilet.
Jennifer: 37:50
So I was, listen, I listen to podcast while I'm doing stuff in the barn and I listened to one the other day and she was saying that she had to hire a nanny to watch her younger kids in the summertime so she could work on her home business. And one day she realized that her kids were spending too much time with the nanny in the summertime, so she fired the nanny and she hired somebody to help with her business and hired somebody to clean her house and do her laundry so she could raise her kids, same amount of money was going out, but changed her priorities.
Carey: 38:25
Thanks for tuning into the Poultry Nerd Podcast. We hope today's episode provided you clear insights and actionable tips for all the chicken and quail enthusiasts out there.
Jennifer: 38:38
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Carey: 38:53
Till next time, keep pecking at your goals.